diff --git a/implementation/requestlogging/requestlogging.go b/implementation/requestlogging/requestlogging.go
index e942c65..de1951c 100644
--- a/implementation/requestlogging/requestlogging.go
+++ b/implementation/requestlogging/requestlogging.go
@@ -3,34 +3,86 @@ package aurestlogging
 import (
 	"context"
 	aulogging "github.com/StephanHCB/go-autumn-logging"
+	auloggingapi "github.com/StephanHCB/go-autumn-logging/api"
 	aurestclientapi "github.com/StephanHCB/go-autumn-restclient/api"
 	aurestnontripping "github.com/StephanHCB/go-autumn-restclient/implementation/errors/nontrippingerror"
 	"time"
 )
 
+// RequestLoggingOptions allows overriding the log functions used.
+//
+// This allows easily changing the log level when setting up request logging.
+//
+// important: do not cache the LeveledLoggingImplementation, create one each time, or some loggers may use
+// cached values.
+type RequestLoggingOptions struct {
+	BeforeRequest func(ctx context.Context) auloggingapi.LeveledLoggingImplementation
+	Success       func(ctx context.Context) auloggingapi.LeveledLoggingImplementation
+	Failure       func(ctx context.Context) auloggingapi.LeveledLoggingImplementation
+}
+
+func Debug(ctx context.Context) auloggingapi.LeveledLoggingImplementation {
+	return aulogging.Logger.Ctx(ctx).Debug()
+}
+
+func Info(ctx context.Context) auloggingapi.LeveledLoggingImplementation {
+	return aulogging.Logger.Ctx(ctx).Info()
+}
+
+func Warn(ctx context.Context) auloggingapi.LeveledLoggingImplementation {
+	return aulogging.Logger.Ctx(ctx).Warn()
+}
+
 type RequestLoggingImpl struct {
 	Wrapped aurestclientapi.Client
+	Options RequestLoggingOptions
+}
+
+func NewWithOptions(wrapped aurestclientapi.Client, opts RequestLoggingOptions) aurestclientapi.Client {
+	instance := &RequestLoggingImpl{
+		Wrapped: wrapped,
+		Options: RequestLoggingOptions{
+			BeforeRequest: Debug,
+			Success:       Info,
+			Failure:       Warn,
+		},
+	}
+	if opts.BeforeRequest != nil {
+		instance.Options.BeforeRequest = opts.BeforeRequest
+	}
+	if opts.Success != nil {
+		instance.Options.Success = opts.Success
+	}
+	if opts.Failure != nil {
+		instance.Options.Failure = opts.Failure
+	}
+	return instance
 }
 
 func New(wrapped aurestclientapi.Client) aurestclientapi.Client {
 	return &RequestLoggingImpl{
 		Wrapped: wrapped,
+		Options: RequestLoggingOptions{
+			BeforeRequest: Debug,
+			Success:       Info,
+			Failure:       Warn,
+		},
 	}
 }
 
 func (c *RequestLoggingImpl) Perform(ctx context.Context, method string, requestUrl string, requestBody interface{}, response *aurestclientapi.ParsedResponse) error {
-	aulogging.Logger.Ctx(ctx).Debug().Printf("downstream %s %s...", method, requestUrl)
+	c.Options.BeforeRequest(ctx).Printf("downstream %s %s...", method, requestUrl)
 	before := time.Now()
 	err := c.Wrapped.Perform(ctx, method, requestUrl, requestBody, response)
 	millis := time.Now().Sub(before).Milliseconds()
 	if err != nil {
 		if aurestnontripping.Is(err) {
-			aulogging.Logger.Ctx(ctx).Warn().WithErr(err).Printf("downstream %s %s -> %d FAILED (%d ms) (nontripping)", method, requestUrl, response.Status, millis)
+			c.Options.Failure(ctx).WithErr(err).Printf("downstream %s %s -> %d FAILED (%d ms) (nontripping)", method, requestUrl, response.Status, millis)
 		} else {
-			aulogging.Logger.Ctx(ctx).Warn().WithErr(err).Printf("downstream %s %s -> %d FAILED (%d ms)", method, requestUrl, response.Status, millis)
+			c.Options.Failure(ctx).WithErr(err).Printf("downstream %s %s -> %d FAILED (%d ms)", method, requestUrl, response.Status, millis)
 		}
 	} else {
-		aulogging.Logger.Ctx(ctx).Info().Printf("downstream %s %s -> %d OK (%d ms)", method, requestUrl, response.Status, millis)
+		c.Options.Success(ctx).Printf("downstream %s %s -> %d OK (%d ms)", method, requestUrl, response.Status, millis)
 	}
 	return err
 }
diff --git a/implementation/retry/retry.go b/implementation/retry/retry.go
index c4dd536..1bc2f7e 100644
--- a/implementation/retry/retry.go
+++ b/implementation/retry/retry.go
@@ -7,6 +7,14 @@ import (
 	"time"
 )
 
+type RetryOptions struct {
+	RepeatCount uint8
+
+	BeforeRetryOrNil aurestclientapi.BeforeRetryCallback
+
+	SilenceGivingUp bool
+}
+
 type RetryImpl struct {
 	Wrapped     aurestclientapi.Client
 	RepeatCount uint8
@@ -16,6 +24,28 @@ type RetryImpl struct {
 
 	RetryingMetricsCallback aurestclientapi.MetricsCallbackFunction
 	GivingUpMetricsCallback aurestclientapi.MetricsCallbackFunction
+
+	SilenceGivingUp bool
+}
+
+func NewWithOptions(
+	wrapped aurestclientapi.Client,
+	condition aurestclientapi.RetryConditionCallback,
+	opts RetryOptions,
+) aurestclientapi.Client {
+	repeatCount := uint8(2)
+	if opts.RepeatCount > 0 {
+		repeatCount = opts.RepeatCount
+	}
+	return &RetryImpl{
+		Wrapped:                 wrapped,
+		RepeatCount:             repeatCount,
+		RetryCondition:          condition,
+		BeforeRetry:             opts.BeforeRetryOrNil,
+		RetryingMetricsCallback: doNothingMetricsCallback,
+		GivingUpMetricsCallback: doNothingMetricsCallback,
+		SilenceGivingUp:         opts.SilenceGivingUp,
+	}
 }
 
 func New(
@@ -69,7 +99,9 @@ func (c *RetryImpl) Perform(ctx context.Context, method string, requestUrl strin
 			// (*)
 			if attempt == c.RepeatCount+1 {
 				c.GivingUpMetricsCallback(ctx, method, requestUrl, response.Status, err, 0, 0)
-				aulogging.Logger.Ctx(ctx).Warn().WithErr(err).Printf("giving up on %s %s after attempt %d", method, requestUrl, attempt)
+				if !c.SilenceGivingUp {
+					aulogging.Logger.Ctx(ctx).Warn().WithErr(err).Printf("giving up on %s %s after attempt %d", method, requestUrl, attempt)
+				}
 				return err
 			}
 		} else {
diff --git a/implementation/retry/retry_test.go b/implementation/retry/retry_test.go
index 3a5fa97..271c507 100644
--- a/implementation/retry/retry_test.go
+++ b/implementation/retry/retry_test.go
@@ -127,6 +127,28 @@ func TestFailWithRetry(t *testing.T) {
 	require.Equal(t, []string{r, r, r, r}, aurestcapture.GetRecording(mock))
 }
 
+func TestFailWithRetryWithOpts(t *testing.T) {
+	aulogging.SetupNoLoggerForTesting()
+
+	mock := tstMock()
+	cut := NewWithOptions(mock,
+		func(ctx context.Context, response *aurestclientapi.ParsedResponse, err error) bool {
+			return true
+		},
+		RetryOptions{
+			BeforeRetryOrNil: nil,
+			SilenceGivingUp:  true,
+		},
+	)
+
+	response := &aurestclientapi.ParsedResponse{}
+	err := cut.Perform(context.Background(), "GET", "http://err", nil, response)
+	require.NotNil(t, err)
+	require.Equal(t, "some transport error", err.Error())
+	r := "GET http://err <nil>"
+	require.Equal(t, []string{r, r, r}, aurestcapture.GetRecording(mock))
+}
+
 func TestAbortRetry(t *testing.T) {
 	aulogging.SetupNoLoggerForTesting()